Carl and Todd are at it again! Join them as they discuss Todd's "journey" to his new Presbyterian "tribe" from his Southern Baptist roots. Listen in and learn more about the distintives of church governmental structures between denominations. Call them "elitist" if you must, but our hosts unashamedly assert the importance of getting the right men in the pulpit, as those men are to care for peoples' souls according to God's standard laid out in his Word. This topic is becoming more and more explosive as churches continue to seek the coolest and hippest men to be pastors, instead of choosing the educated and qualified men.
Wednesday, October 2, 2013
Becoming Presbyterian
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So, does ACE have to fire you and get another Baptistic non-denominational pastor to balance out Trueman to maintain its appeal to an inter-denominational audience? Just kidding! It was a great discussion.
So, does ACE have to fire you and get another Baptistic non-denominational pastor to balance out Trueman to maintain its appeal to an inter-denominational audience? Just kidding! It was a great discussion.
Interesting question. I was their token baptistic, non-denominational, mega-church pastor. Now I'm just a boring Presbyterian!
I have to say that generally I look forward to the MoS posts. However on this occasion I think the tone and content fell short being an incisive critique of the modern church and felt more like Presbyterian back slapping. I totally respect your 'journey' into Presbyterianism and do pray that God will bless you ministry there but I would say that some of the comments, purportedly on an ACE blog should reflect a more balanced view of your confessional Baptist brothers. I say this from a somewhat removed perspective being from the UK,.
Hoping for better next time
Gary - There are Presbyterians and Baptists associated with ACE. It just so happens that Carl and I are both Presbyterians. And, as Presbyterians, we hold a covenantal view of the sacraments. And just as Baptists take credo-baptism seriously, so too we take the covenantal view of baptism seriously. I have no intention of belittling credo-Baptists. Many of my heroes are credo-Baptists. But the difference is important. And when Carl and I talk about why we are Presbyterian the subject of baptism will inevitably arise. Certainly no disrespect is intended. At the same time we ought to be able to talk about why we are convinced that covenant baptism is biblical. I get quite a bit of teasing from my Baptist brothers these days and it in no way offends me because I am quite secure that my understanding of baptism is biblical.
One more thought - Since Mortification of Spin intentionally addresses issues that are at time controversial, I have no illusions that each broadcast will please everyone. I hope that those who listen will find the discussions helpful even when we disagree about things that matter to us.
Todd - thanks for the reply. I have no issue with how strongly you and Mr Trueman hold your theological position in regard to baptism, although obviously I disagree with it and the ecclesiological construct. Indeed I think I agree with Carl when he often states that it is the very points of disagreement that are often most fruitful in discussion and refining ones own view.
My contention was merely that the tone of the discussion, which is often 'on the edge' as it were seemed to suggest that all the problems were with those who held to a credo-baptist position, when I'm sure that you will agree that there are issues with both camps. I know credo-baptists such as myself who would hold to a 'covenantal' view of their position.
As I said I have, and will continue to look forward to the podcasts as they come!
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